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Yikes. I don't expose myself to "the news" currently, so I'd only vaguely heard about that event and then wondered why I didn't hear more since normally it's the kind of topic people talk about indefinitely. Now I know...

Our church (Lutheran- I am personally not Lutheran but more like semi-Catholic) hosted an anti-Mormon talk recently. My husband joked "They're onto us, babe," because we are seemingly the only "gentiles" in these parts that don't hate Mormons. The trinity issue is at least technically correct theologically, and personally I believe in the trinity, but I don't want to burn Arians or Monists or anyone else at the stake over this issue. I get the problems with public heresy, but I see how sincere for instance Isaac Newton's Arianism was and I just can't believe that ultimately stood between him and admission to heaven. The Mormon trinity is maybe more shocking in its sci-fi-ness but it isn't really as extreme as Arianism.

The most common "theological slam-dunk" against Mormons that I've heard in local churches (Evangelical/Fundamentalist and Lutheran) is frankly just a lie or a misunderstanding so lazy that it's no different from a lie in my book. They accuse Mormons (who believe everyone is saved) of works-righteousness...because of the exaltation thing. There's all kinds of stuff one can object to in the details of how exaltation is supposed to work, but it simply is not works-righteousness. But while Protestants tend to be united on sola fide, many sects including Lutherans don't believe that Catholics are damned over works-righteousness. So there has to be an extra twist arguing that somehow works-righteousness necessarily entails a rejection of grace thus damnation- which to be fair most Evangelicals do believe Catholics and Mormons will be hanging out together in outer darkness. But they don't run their cars into Sunday schools.

Whether it's anti-Mormon or anti-Catholic comments, I usually ask in response "Then why all the fruit?" Evangelicals claim it's somehow "fake fruit," like the gazillion Mormon children running around everywhere are clones or something. Maybe that's why it doesn't count when someone murders them.

Ugh. Anyway, sorry, man, and I hope whatisname gets sent back to CA.

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That’s total bs man sorry to hear your church is going through such persecution!

maybe what’s needed is some good PR! Maybe you you just have a problem of perception silly millennials genx genz etc… thinking the septegenarians not caring if they can afford a home or some silly nonsense. Which is total nonsense since the church is clearly very caring.

Get trump to invite some younger folks in to give it a sassy PR facelift! Problem solved

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